Minerva: The S54 powered, better than new, E28

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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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m-racer wrote:I like Henna just fine. I had a Henna E30 M3. Cops loved it.
Funny, the Henna e30 is the only BMW I've owned that I haven't been pulled over in (which I've obviously now jinxed). :)
m-racer wrote:One of the most attractive E28's I ever saw was a a Henna Alpina B9. All that said, I do think it would not compliment the red car as a garage mate.
I agree, two red e28s is too many in the same garage.

I do luvs me some Henna though...
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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I've always liked the BMW Lapisblau and you rarely see it in North America.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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Karl Grau wrote:
m-racer wrote:I like Henna just fine. I had a Henna E30 M3. Cops loved it.
Funny, the Henna e30 is the only BMW I've owned that I haven't been pulled over in (which I've obviously now jinxed).
Yep, you are screwed. I had an officer tell me (probably in the early 90's) that a Henna E30 M3 was like giving a cop the finger. I had similar experiences in my Guards Red 911. The car cops love to hate.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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I hope you guys are having fun on my thread.
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cek wrote:I hope you guys are having fun on my thread.
Hey, that was my first post in this thread, I've been saving up.

It looks like it's going to be a fun build and I can't wait to see the car at St Paddy's in March.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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Karl Grau wrote:
cek wrote:I hope you guys are having fun on my thread.
Hey, that was my first post in this thread, I've been saving up.

It looks like it's going to be a fun build and I can't wait to see the car at St Paddy's in March.
March 2018.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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cek wrote:
Karl Grau wrote:
cek wrote:I hope you guys are having fun on my thread.
Hey, that was my first post in this thread, I've been saving up.

It looks like it's going to be a fun build and I can't wait to see the car at St Paddy's in March.
March 2018.
I haven't been to any BMW events yet but I hope to go to some soon and definitely that one!
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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I'm physically and emotionally naked right now.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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oldskool wrote:I'm physically and emotionally naked right now.
Tell us something we don't already know.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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cek wrote:
oldskool wrote:I'm physically and emotionally naked right now.
Tell us something we don't already know.
Better Cek yourself before you Rek yourself.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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amazing project! like that :up:
but will be a huge theard with nearly 4 pages of color discussion ;)
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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Cek, you have lost control of this thread
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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Awesome build!

Just a heads-up...even though your S54 has very low miles I would consider bulletproofing the vanos system before you drop it in. Cracked/broken hub and loose bolts is a common issue...anywhere from low to high mileage. Beisan has a cheap fix for any of the common issues....pasted below.

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=441481
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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Awesome looking build, I sure I'm safe in assuming this will end with a "CLEAN" car! Is that the Canadian engine and tranny? :D

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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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maybeillbuyit wrote:Is that the Canadian engine and tranny? :D
Yep.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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635L6M3 wrote:Awesome build!

Just a heads-up...even though your S54 has very low miles I would consider bulletproofing the vanos system before you drop it in. Cracked/broken hub and loose bolts is a common issue...anywhere from low to high mileage. Beisan has a cheap fix for any of the common issues....pasted below.

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=441481
Thanks, for pointing that out. I've already done thorough research into this topic, and updating the vanos is part of the plan/budget. Haven't nailed who/how the work will get done, but it will get done.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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This is gonna be awesome! What's the plan for course? Build, sort, then paint and interior or?
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86GT635 wrote:This is gonna be awesome! What's the plan for course? Build, sort, then paint and interior or?
Good question. I've thought it out, but now that you ask I realize I haven't ever written it down...which crazy given how much I harp on people for "Have a plan. Write it down." I'm willing to be a lot of clarification comes from this...so here goes...

(your summary is just about right: test/measure, build/modify, paint, assemble, do interior, drive)
  • Get car on lift and inspect under-side (I've never seen it because I haven't ever put it on the lift yet!)
  • Remove E46 engine mounts from engine.
  • Remove S54 oil pan.
  • Install M50 oil pan/pump/pickup (still need to source; may do the steps below w/out an oil pan at all).
  • Install Marco916's engine mounts on engine and attach tospare sub-frame.
  • Build engine/tranny cradle for table-lift. The idea is a cradle (with wheels) that the table-lift can slide under and then lift the sub-frame/engine/tranny in a stable way. I am itching for my first real welding project…
  • Hoist 'er up (table-lift)/drop 'er down (4-post lift) for a test fit.
  • Verify Marco916's mounts put the engine where I want it.
  • Determine what mods to the transmission tunnel are required to fit the 6-speed.
  • … (a whole bunch of stuff relating to the brake booster, oil cooler, intake muffler, wiring, …)
  • Assemble everything so that the engine can start. The car will not be drivable due to lack of interior and there's no point in really going that far, but I want to be completely sure the engine electronics and accessories are sorted BEFORE the car is re-painted (e.g. brackets fabricated and welded into place).
  • Build a dolly that will let me move the chassis around without any suspension (see Kohler/bkbimmer's threads for ideas). Another fun welding project!
  • Strip all parts off the chassis.
  • Transport the chassis to my body/paint guy. He's got a rotisserie…
  • … (a lot of details about sound proofing, rust prevention, under coating, body work, prep, paint) …
  • Let cure… for a long time.
  • Start re-attaching parts (learning a lot from Kohler's treads on how to phase all this).
  • Interior comes last (or close to last).
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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So what you're saying is there's still time to decide on paint color, I vote Montego! Good luck Charlie, this is a real whopper of a build.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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Great thread..that car looks familar?????

CEK - I have rebuilt M5 (RED tag) steering box available.

PML
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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cek wrote:
86GT635 wrote:This is gonna be awesome! What's the plan for course? Build, sort, then paint and interior or?
Good question. I've thought it out, but now that you ask I realize I haven't ever written it down...which crazy given how much I harp on people for "Have a plan. Write it down." I'm willing to be a lot of clarification comes from this...so here goes...

(your summary is just about right: test/measure, build/modify, paint, assemble, do interior, drive)
  • Get car on lift and inspect under-side (I've never seen it because I haven't ever put it on the lift yet!)
  • Remove E46 engine mounts from engine.
  • Remove S54 oil pan.
  • Install M50 oil pan/pump/pickup (still need to source; may do the steps below w/out an oil pan at all).
  • Install Marco916's engine mounts on engine and attach tospare sub-frame.
  • Build engine/tranny cradle for table-lift. The idea is a cradle (with wheels) that the table-lift can slide under and then lift the sub-frame/engine/tranny in a stable way. I am itching for my first real welding project…
  • Hoist 'er up (table-lift)/drop 'er down (4-post lift) for a test fit.
  • Verify Marco916's mounts put the engine where I want it.
  • Determine what mods to the transmission tunnel are required to fit the 6-speed.
  • … (a whole bunch of stuff relating to the brake booster, oil cooler, intake muffler, wiring, …)
  • Assemble everything so that the engine can start. The car will not be drivable due to lack of interior and there's no point in really going that far, but I want to be completely sure the engine electronics and accessories are sorted BEFORE the car is re-painted (e.g. brackets fabricated and welded into place).
  • Build a dolly that will let me move the chassis around without any suspension (see Kohler/bkbimmer's threads for ideas). Another fun welding project!
  • Strip all parts off the chassis.
  • Transport the chassis to my body/paint guy. He's got a rotisserie…
  • … (a lot of details about sound proofing, rust prevention, under coating, body work, prep, paint) …
  • Let cure… for a long time.
  • Start re-attaching parts (learning a lot from Kohler's treads on how to phase all this).
  • Interior comes last (or close to last).
If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorry
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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bkbimmer wrote:If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorry
You don't get off that easy. I see what I want to see in your threads.
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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cek wrote:
bkbimmer wrote:If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorry
You don't get off that easy. I see what I want to see in your threads.

Don't you see what you want to see from sea to shining sea?
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Re: Project 'Blue': The perfect, S54 powered, DD E28

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bkbimmer wrote:
cek wrote:
bkbimmer wrote:If you use my thread for ideas your build will fail. I don't write things down or have spreadsheets. Sorry
You don't get off that easy. I see what I want to see in your threads.

Don't you see what you want to see from sea to shining sea?
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