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Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Apr 28, 2019 10:24 AM
by 2ml2us2
So, I have made as many repairs as I can on the felt window /door trim as I can. The current state of appearance bugs me and I want to replace it. Part 51 72 1 904 328. I have found it listed for sick money. I am sure someone here has found either an alternate item or a better source.

Any suggestions?

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Apr 29, 2019 12:25 PM
by SeattleGuy
I wish I knew. I just glued mine back in place but I'm sure it was come aloose again.... Also do you know how to obtain the hard rubber pieces that go inside the window frame? I'm missing one of the ones that goes in the corner by the tweeter after a pick and pull replaced my driver's window after a break-in. Good luck.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Apr 29, 2019 1:32 PM
by Spen
I was thinking that junkyard felt from an E38 would be worth a shot. Cut it down and hide the seam under the door sill trim. That was my intention to try. I have maybe 2 good sets of trims at home so I'm not in a rush but I did forget to bring a trim piece home from the yard the other month. Doh!

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Apr 29, 2019 1:33 PM
by jayjaya29
I just removed all the felt from my car. Looks better then sagging felt everywhere.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Apr 29, 2019 6:10 PM
by Spen
Seattle Guy, you need the inner door rubber. It's one piece. A yard car without damaged inner door window guide rubber would be good or buy new. You can find part numbers on realoem. Best

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: May 01, 2019 5:44 PM
by SeattleGuy
Spen wrote:Seattle Guy, you need the inner door rubber. It's one piece. A yard car without damaged inner door window guide rubber would be good or buy new. You can find part numbers on realoem. Best
Solid. This guy: I thought it was 2 pieces in there. Thanks for the info. I have a passenger door so I'll see if they are LH/RH specific.
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Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: May 03, 2019 5:55 PM
by dsmith
The seals are the same diagonally. RF/LR, LF/RR.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: May 07, 2019 2:31 PM
by Federico
The generic name for those seals is

FURFLEX DOOR SEAL

I haven't bought any myself, so I can't recommend any vendor.

This is nice too:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Fuzzy-Furf ... 0905041123

It uses a flock layer (or is the rubber flocked directly?) and looks very tidy.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: May 09, 2019 2:29 PM
by Federico
This is close too:
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https://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/produ ... t-excluder

What we really need is this "windlace" fabric ( 1/2 woven, 1/2 plush)...

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...but glued to a door seal instead of a rubber tube.
The materials exist, but the E28 combination doesn't seem to be readily available.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: May 28, 2019 10:20 AM
by Sagi
https://gummi-metall-puffer-shop.de/kan ... ours-wolle
This is the one i found in germany.i'm going to order soon for the front. I will report when it will be on thd car.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Jun 24, 2019 9:05 AM
by cek
Black 3M weather strip adhesive is the best stuff I've found for gluing loose fir back in place.

Use less than you think you'll need.

Apply to both (clean) surfaces.

Let dry a bit.

Use clips to hold in place while it sets.

Do it on the car if not completely disconnected.

I too want to know if this aftermarket stuff is workable....

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Aug 02, 2019 2:43 PM
by Bonsaibacker
cek wrote:Black 3M weather strip adhesive is the best stuff I've found for gluing loose fir back in place.

Use less than you think you'll need.

Apply to both (clean) surfaces.

Let dry a bit.

Use clips to hold in place while it sets.

Do it on the car if not completely disconnected.
Also the technique I used on a recommendation from dsmith. Effective. Way better than the superglue patch from the PO!

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Aug 19, 2019 5:22 AM
by Sagi
I've bought 2 gray ones from these guys, it should come the next few days.
https://www.eastkenttrimsupplies.com/Mo ... 2x24420524

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Oct 22, 2019 12:59 PM
by buzby
I ordered a sample from:

https://gummi-metall-puffer-shop.de/kan ... ours-wolle

Thanks Sagi.

It turned out great, not quite exact copy but close enough, the fur part goes all the way round so no cloth part. Fine by me.

You would have to 90 degree the corners of course but not an issue.

Well made quality seal with aluminum core like original.

See pics via Dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1gm1ew5g2zr3 ... el81a?dl=0

Dave

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Oct 22, 2019 2:19 PM
by Federico
buzby wrote:I ordered a sample from:

https://gummi-metall-puffer-shop.de/kan ... ours-wolle

Thanks Sagi.

It turned out great, not quite exact copy but close enough, the fur part goes all the way round so no cloth part. Fine by me.

You would have to 90 degree the corners of course but not an issue.

Well made quality seal with aluminum core like original.

See pics via Dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1gm1ew5g2zr3 ... el81a?dl=0

Dave
Nice! Slick enough that no one will ever notice it's not original.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Oct 29, 2019 12:32 AM
by code
buzby wrote:I ordered a sample from:

https://gummi-metall-puffer-shop.de/kan ... ours-wolle

Thanks Sagi.

It turned out great, not quite exact copy but close enough, the fur part goes all the way round so no cloth part. Fine by me.

You would have to 90 degree the corners of course but not an issue.

Well made quality seal with aluminum core like original.

See pics via Dropbox.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1gm1ew5g2zr3 ... el81a?dl=0

Dave
This looks great. My felt pieces are starting to really detach. How much do you think you’ll need for the whole car?

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Oct 29, 2019 8:56 AM
by buzby
I calculated 11 metres total for all 4 doors which gives a few CM spare. Plan on cutting at 45 degrees and gluing in place for the top rear corner. It will look like the factory one.

If you are not sure than an extra metre is not going to break the bank.

Dave

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Nov 04, 2019 11:51 AM
by jhh925
Dave: I know you have an M5, but if this felt & rubber edge seal works, this entire E28 community will have a collective orgasm. Any reason not to cross-post in the "Tech Talk" or "Parts for sale" subforums?

Speaking of which, any updates on your project?

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Nov 05, 2019 9:07 PM
by 1st 5er
jayjaya29 wrote:I just removed all the felt from my car. Looks better then sagging felt everywhere.
You're gonna die and go to hell for that. :evil:

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Nov 06, 2019 10:51 PM
by buzby
Hi Jens,

Yes, good point, I will cross post to the other E28 section.

I have ordered 11 meters of this seal from Germany through a friend who visits there often. They do not ship outside Germany.

M5 running great, got the AC fan working now so just need to find the R12 leak before filling with R12 again.

Washer jets a pain, blocked up again. Pain to remove and clean for sure. Any suggestions? Using the blue summer washer fluid from WalMart.

I don't drive the car enough.. It does not like sitting in the garage for sure. Passed CA emissions again with flying colors, tester could not believe the numbers for a 1988 car!

Need to drive it down to the Bay Area!

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Nov 08, 2019 8:52 PM
by jhh925
buzby wrote:Washer jets a pain, blocked up again. Pain to remove and clean for sure. Any suggestions? Using the blue summer washer fluid from WalMart.
Why not replace them with new? They're still available and not super expensive (can't remember price, but I think about $30 each?).
buzby wrote:Need to drive it down to the Bay Area!
Yes, yes, you do.

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Nov 09, 2019 11:58 PM
by buzby
They were new about 2 years ago, did not buy the heated ones but still BMW parts.

Yes, I just need to make some time. It will do the car good to have a long run for sure.

Dave

Re: Felt door trim/seal

Posted: Jun 24, 2020 2:22 PM
by cek
From Minerva's thread:
cek wrote:
Jun 24, 2020 2:17 PM
Earlier this year I had Ivo buy 11 meters of this for me, which I transported back from Amsterdam in my suitcase:

https://gummi-metall-puffer-shop.de/kan ... ours-wolle
(From this thread: viewtopic.php?p=1477709#p1477709)

First step was to see how the short corners could be made to work. It took several attempts and I finally settled on this: Two 45 degree cuts using some Swis shears. Kohler suggested cutoff wheel might work even better. I'll try that for the right side.

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I did the driver's door first:
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Then the left passenger door.
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I'm extremely happy with this stuff. There's a very small risk of water ingress at the corners where the cuts are needed, but if the door seal is in good shape, this should not be an issue. Some gasket maker, carefully applied might seal it up, but I'm not doing that here unless I know I have to.

This stuff is a bit bulkier than the OE stuff. The doors close fine, but you can tell its a little tighter. The B pillar covers fit on tight.

That rear seat fitment just looks terrific.