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So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 12:42 AM
by Mike W.
Especially with as many younger members as we now have, not a bad thing BTW, I'm wondering how many have driven what? And be assured, I'm not claiming I've driven everything.

3 on the floor, a 3 speed manual once considered a sporting step up from 3 on the tree
4 on the floor, once a big deal and step above a 3 speed. My first 15 years of BMWs were this format.
5 on the floor, now seemingly standard with a stick.
Dogleg 5. I'm not sure I've ever driven one.
6 on the floor. I know I haven't driven one.
8 speed, twin stick, OD on all 4 gears. A fun combo on ~80s Mitsubitshi/Dodge Colts. I had one, best thing about the car.
???

3 on the tree. Column shift manual tranny, once the base tranny on domestic cars. Usually without synchro in first.
4 on the tree. I've driven a couple, some European cars and a friend had an early Ford van (65?) with one. Not as bad as it sounds.

A/Ts
2 on the column
3 on the column
4 on the column
(I'm sure they are more inbetween, I just haven't actually seen them)
8 on the column

2 on the floor
3 on the floor
4 on the floor
5 on the floor
6 on the floor
7 on the floor
and I'm sure more with the explosion of A/T ratios.

Electric OD. Some Volvos and MGs had it. Laycock IIRC. Probably more. Only on 3rd and 4th.

2 speed rear axle. This is borderline, the one I drove was on a 2(?) ton truck. Heavy trucks get into way more.

I've driven 18 of the above. There's more I'm sure, but what?

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 1:18 AM
by Mdreamer
Here goes:

Manuals
Three (on the tree)
Four speed
Five speed
Six speed
Seven speed

Automatics/semi-auto/dual clutch
Two speed (old fashioned type, and new two speed in Porsche Taycan)
Three speed
Four speed
Five speed
Six Speed
Seven speed (PDK)
Eight speed (PDK II)
10 speed

I think that's it. I get to drive some pretty cool stuff for my job, so a lot of the new stuff I am sampling regularly. I miss driving old stuff, though.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 12:15 PM
by RonW
All my cars, and my parents' cars when I was growning up, had standard transmissions:
4 on the floor ('67 VW bug, '70s Honda Civic, '73 Volvo 144)
5 on the floor ('80s Honda Civic, '86 BMW 535i, '87 BMW 535is, '01 BMW 325Ci)

Almost everything else (rentals, other people's cars) has been an automatic.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 12:23 PM
by duggi
4, 5 & 6 "on the floor" manuals
3, 4, 5, 6, & 8 "on the floor" autos
3, 4, 5, & 9 "on the tree" autos
6 & 7 DCTs
A few CVTs as well, even one with 7 "ratios" and paddle shifters :rofl:

Wow this was an interesting exercise, I feel that's a lot of variety for someone my age (mid-30s).

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 1:57 PM
by a
Let's put it this way: If a vehicle has a 3rd pedal, I could probably figure it out. I had a class one license for many yrs. Manual transmissions are all the same. Every single one is different. Not much, but enough to make each one different. A ]56 VW came with a hand crank. Time marches on dude. In the late Eisenhower era, I watched USN blimps search Massachusetts Bay for subs. I could hear the chains on Gino Rugani's Sterling sing as it rounded the curves by Melvoen's house, a mile away. Yah, I miss the times of my childhood. Flash forward 60 yrs, I don't even know how many speeds the Fridge's transmission has. 5 maybe 6. Doesn't even have a dip stick. Has a 2.5 L I 4 that goes 75mph @ 2200 rpm and gets almost 40 mpg. It's 5 yrs old, so its not even cutting edge :laugh:

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 4:46 PM
by Kenny Blankenship
To me, the real connoisseurs have driven 4 on the tree and 5 on the tree manuals... :D

I have one that's not on your list...5 on the tree automatic! :up: I'm surprised how much I like it.

I want to shift like this guy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGPE56T1pGk

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 7:42 PM
by a
I had a Citroen DS 19 with a 4 on the tree. I started my training on an old Mack with a Triplex, 5 main x 3spd auxiliary and later a Fuller Road Ranger. Its a learning process.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 7:59 PM
by Galahad
Your list is missing ... whatever you call what my civic has. Five in the dash? Manual Honda Elements had the same setup, but I don't know of any other three pedal cars that do. Here's a pic, sorry it's washed out:

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Stick: 5 and 6 on the floor, 5 in the dash
Auto: Various. Nissan CVTs are terrible.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 21, 2020 8:43 PM
by Mike W.
Galahad wrote: Nov 21, 2020 7:59 PM Your list is missing ... whatever you call what my civic has. Five in the dash? Manual Honda Elements had the same setup, but I don't know of any other three pedal cars that do. Here's a pic, sorry it's washed out:

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Stick: 5 and 6 on the floor, 5 in the dash
Auto: Various. Nissan CVTs are terrible.
Yeah, I missed a few. CVTs and GMs dynaflush from the 50s or so. Chrysler pushbutton A/Ts from the 60s, which I have driven. Early Prius with the A/T shiftlever sticking out of the dash, but the manual in the dash I hadn't even heard about. :oops: As far as the Nissans go, I had a rental Maxima with the CVT and really it seemed more like a generic A/T. Of course ~300HP will help compensate for a crappy tranny.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 22, 2020 10:10 AM
by BMWCCA2
I guess I'm in for a dozen. Though I didn't see the most current ubiquitous BMW version today, the 8-speed automatic floor shifter.
Also, don't paddles count for anything in the experience?

Throw in the upside-down 4-speed manual left-hand shifter from the Isetta, and maybe some 4, 5, and 6-speed foot shifters from motorcycles.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 23, 2020 3:16 AM
by David B
4 on the floor.
4 on the floor, one finger punch to overdrive (83 Volvo Turbo).
2spd auto (power glide).
Standard 5 on the floor.
Dogleg 5.
3-4-5-6spd autos.
6spd on the floor.
Various flappy paddles.
One spd auto which suck ass (CVT), although I often thought that my old 2013 Subaru Outback being a CVT would be killer with the turbo offerings by Subaru. In my head it seems you could hold the pedal at the perfect boost right in the sweet spot of the power band thinking it would go like hell, in theory?

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 26, 2020 1:06 AM
by davintosh
Lessee... The first transmission I drove was on a tractor (at about 8 years old!) Most were 4-speed manuals, but I think some had 5-speeds; with the low gearing and high torque on those beasts, you could pretty much get them moving from a dead stop in any gear you want unless you're really sloppy with the clutch.

My first car had a 3-speed manual; it originally had a column shifter but a previous owner had converted it to a floor shifter. The weird thing was the collar on the column would move when you moved the floor shifter.

From there I had 2- & 3-speed autotragics, and others with more gears, but I don't remember all the details; column- and console-shiftered, plus a few push-button shifted vehicles (Rambler and Dodge.) When I was a teenager, I test drove an old Dodge pickup that had a Fluid-Drive transmission in it; as I understand, it had a regular manual transmission behind something like a torque converter. There was a clutch pedal that you'd use to get started, but then you could just move the shifter through the gears without using the clutch. I remember it being a bit odd; I wasn't overly impressed with it, and less impressed with the overall shape of the truck, so passed on the purchase.

I've driven a number of manual transmissions, column and floor shift, and even a couple dashboard shift manuals (Mercedes Benz Vito vans and Ford's European Transit vans use that so you can have 3-across seating without banging the shift lever against anybody's knees.)

And yup, the CVT is missing; I currently have two, a Lexus RX400h and a Prius Plug-In. I wasn't too sure about them at first but did some reading, and from what I've read, the Toyota CVTs just work, no drama like some of the others. We've had the Lexus going on 4 years now, it's got ~170,000 miles, and still working great (knocks on wood.) It's a little strange not hearing the normal shifting noises, but it makes sense when you think about the thing keeping the engine in its power band. It grows on you.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Nov 26, 2020 3:16 AM
by krhodes1
Weird stuff:
No speeds - sundry electrics
1spd + locking torque converter (GM transit buses)
2spd + locking torque converter (newer version of same)
4+H/L in every gear - (GM farm truck)
Weird clutchless Ford Select-O-Speed thing (ancient Ford tractor) - no idea how many gears at this point - 8? 10?

Manuals:
3 on the tree (American pickups)
4 on the tree (V4 Saabs, Trabant, Wartburg)
5 on the tree (Renault 16)
4 sticking out of the dash (Citroen)
3 on the floor (Dodge Dart!)
3 on the floor plus granny gear
4 on the floor
4+ granny gear
4+O/D on 4th (Volvos)
4+O/D on 3rd and 4th (Triumph Spitfire)
5spd on the floor (regular and dogleg)
6spd on the floor
7spd on the floor (Corvette)

Countless automatics from 3 to 10spds and CVTs. Yawn. But never a regular old 2spd Powerglide - though the transit bus tranny is similar, but with a locking TC.

Current fleet is three 6spds, one 5spd, one 4+3rd and 4th O/D - No autotragics need apply.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Dec 01, 2020 4:08 PM
by gadget73
4 on the floor - VW Beetle, 80s Toyota pickup, early 80s Mustang 4 cyl
5 on the floor - Chevy S10, Dodge Dakota
3 on the tree - 70s F100, 60s Plymouth Valiant
2 speed auto - 68 Impala, 66 Olds F85
3 speed auto
4 speed auto OD
6 speed auto
8 speed auto


Everything has automatics, I'd probably go nuts trying to remember every vehicle I've ever driven with an auto box. Of them though, some stand out as being truly bad. 70s Ford 3 speeds are so sloppy they feel like a bad CVT. The 8 speed GM is the exact opposite, always shifting, but it shudders and clunks when it does it. I regularly drive Ford AODs and a ZF 4HP22, and I think it shifts badly so that should tell you something.

Powerglides work but frankly they suck to actually drive. The gearing is such that its too tall to get any kind of useful acceleration off the line, but too short to cruise on the interstate. Its the worst of both worlds unless you live in the country with few stops and all 50 mph roads. They're truly terrible with an I6. Drive a mid 60s Impala with a 230 and a Powerglide sometime and 80s smog era cars start to feel zippy.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Dec 01, 2020 5:30 PM
by Cactus
A: (broken and reduced to 1 gear), 2,3,4,5,6,8,10
M:3,4,5,6,10 & 3 on tree.

Hydrostatic (not a car), cvt 4 wheeler, skid steer (whatever that counts for)

Motor Bikes: CVT, 1,4,5,6 and that weird honda with a transfer case.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Dec 01, 2020 5:55 PM
by RonW
I just remembered - when I was in high school we had a riding lawnmower with a two-speed standard transmission. I think the transmission lever stuck out from under the left side of the seat. The pedals were in the usual place.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Dec 02, 2020 5:11 PM
by MrZ
I'd be interested to hear if anyone has driven a vehicle with a preselector gearbox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preselector_gearbox

I expect not, unless we have a prewar British racecar driver lurking here, a tanker from British/German Army, or a British lorry driver from 1940-1960.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Dec 02, 2020 5:26 PM
by Mike W.
I should have specified cars, but that's ok too. On the non car side, I've driven a bulldozer, which IIRC was just one speed but probably with a torque converter or maybe just a hydrostatic drive. Fork lifts, electric, with one pedal, one side of which does forward and one side of which does reverse. I think there was a separate brake pedal though. A boom lift with 2 speeds controlled by a simple toggle switch. Trucks with 2 speed rear axles. I wonder if the lawnmower RonW is talking about might have had that shift lever under the seat for forward and reverse, rather than 2 speeds. At least that's what the one my folks had in the 60s that I used a bit. Motorcycles with sequential foot shift of course.

Might be more, but that's all that comes to mind at the moment.

Re: So how many transmissions have you driven?

Posted: Dec 03, 2020 12:30 AM
by Cactus
MrZ wrote: Dec 02, 2020 5:11 PM I'd be interested to hear if anyone has driven a vehicle with a preselector gearbox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preselector_gearbox

I expect not, unless we have a prewar British racecar driver lurking here, a tanker from British/German Army, or a British lorry driver from 1940-1960.
I think a small smattering of domestic oddballs and French oldies had those fancy shifters as well.