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Mless5
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Swampscott, MA
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Sniper X
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Location: Central New Mexico
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 12:01 PM Post subject: Re: z4 3.0 shifter - direct drop in? |
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Bavauto has two kits they say work but at a much much higher pricing than that one. I sure hope that one will work! I think there's are like 140.00 or more. |
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bavblue
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Location: Sun Diego, Ca
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 12:22 PM Post subject: z4 |
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| Yes it is drop in. I am running one now from Z4 |
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Big Bronze Rim Beamter

Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 1:19 PM Post subject: |
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| That's definitely the next shifter I'm put in my car. I've got an e36 m3 one in the car right now and it's only ok. I have already ordered all of the new shifter parts except for the lever. Maybe in the next few weeks I'll actually get around to ordering it and trying it out. |
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ElGuappo
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Sacramento, CA
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 1:24 PM Post subject: |
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Here is the requisite Z shift lever photo:
Most any (perhaps ALL) BMW shift levers will fit...even X5 manual ones....Right Logan?
Jay3 |
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Mless5
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Swampscott, MA
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 1:57 PM Post subject: Re: z4 |
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| bavblue wrote: | | Yes it is drop in. I am running one now from Z4 |
2.5 or 3.o? How do you like it? |
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bavblue
Joined: 15 Aug 2006 Location: Sun Diego, Ca
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 3:07 PM Post subject: Re: z4 |
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| Mless5 wrote: | | bavblue wrote: | | Yes it is drop in. I am running one now from Z4 |
2.5 or 3.o? How do you like it? |
My is 3.0. I like it better than stock, took me some time to get used to it. But I wont go back to stock |
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Sniper X
Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Location: Central New Mexico
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 3:15 PM Post subject: |
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| How much of a pain was the install and did the trans hafta come out? |
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Bimmerguy2002
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Location: Lodi, California
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 3:16 PM Post subject: |
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trans does not have to come out, its held in by one clip and a bushing  |
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Big Bronze Rim Beamter

Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: San Antonio, TX
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 3:41 PM Post subject: |
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| Bimmerguy2002 wrote: | trans does not have to come out, its held in by one clip and a bushing  |
Yup, lever comes out pretty easy. The issue is that most people need to replace almost all of the shift hardware and that is a little more of a pain, but definitely not that bad. |
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Bimmerguy2002
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Location: Lodi, California
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 3:45 PM Post subject: |
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| Big Bronze Rim wrote: | | Bimmerguy2002 wrote: | trans does not have to come out, its held in by one clip and a bushing  |
Yup, lever comes out pretty easy. The issue is that most people need to replace almost all of the shift hardware and that is a little more of a pain, but definitely not that bad. |
People could even make it ten times easier using the billet bushings with circlips that many of the better shifters come with, no using a special tool to get the plastic bushing in the carrier out anymore.
Im happy with my John S modified B&M shifter, no shift throw! |
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derrith
Joined: 18 Sep 2007 Location: Bay Area, CA
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 4:06 PM Post subject: |
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| ElGuappo wrote: | Here is the requisite Z shift lever photo:
Most any (perhaps ALL) BMW shift levers will fit...even X5 manual ones....Right Logan?
Jay3 |
That's right Jay! Good of you to remember. I currently have a z4 2.5 in my eta and the M5 is getting the shifter from an X5 3.0. It's the short throw of the e36 m3 with a longer upper section bent towards the driver. It means quicker gear shifts since it's closer to the wheel. Since the M5 is ostensibly just for driving fast and tracking, it gets a race style shifter. |
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Shawn D. Beamter

Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Alpharetta, GA
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 4:41 PM Post subject: |
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| Bimmerguy2002 wrote: | | People could even make it ten times easier using the billet bushings with circlips that many of the better shifters come with, no using a special tool to get the plastic bushing in the carrier out anymore. |
You'd still have to get the plastic bushing in the carrier out anyhow. Got a diagram of these "billet bushings" you're talking about? |
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Bimmerguy2002
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Location: Lodi, California
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 5:17 PM Post subject: |
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They come on some of the aftermarket shifters, some have bearings inside them, im not interested in them but i think Carr Industries has them for the shifters, its too damn harsh for the street, even for me, i took mine out and opted for the stocker plastic insert.
Its annoying hearing a dzzzzzzzzzzzzz sound when driving.
My shifter came with one (from the B&M website)
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Mless5
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Swampscott, MA
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 11:08 PM Post subject: |
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Are there any DIY documents for rebuilding the shifter? I had my car on the lift today and it doesn't look bad as long as I don't have to touch the front part of the shifter rod that sits parallel to the exhaust and disappears in the front of the transmission.
Also, do you have to bend z4 shifter to get it to original positioning?
Thank you. |
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LA
Joined: 31 Jan 2007 Location: Winchester TN
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 11:13 PM Post subject: Re: z4 |
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| bavblue wrote: | | Mless5 wrote: | | bavblue wrote: | | Yes it is drop in. I am running one now from Z4 |
2.5 or 3.o? How do you like it? |
My is 3.0. I like it better than stock, took me some time to get used to it. But I wont go back to stock |
X2 - love it!
LA |
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Jays535is
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Location: Spokane
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Posted: Aug 26, 2008 11:28 PM Post subject: |
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I got the Z4 3.0 as well. The lever took maybe 20 min, haven't done the front part yet. Very nice upgrade!
Got mine from Mr. Haygood for a great price! |
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blur95
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Aug 27, 2008 1:37 AM Post subject: |
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I've got a z4-3.0 shifter behind my g265, and love it. It seemed a little stiff at first, but now feels nice and smooth. Second gear is now in the neutral position, but I kind of like it that way, it puts the shift pattern a little farther away, and seems to be right where my hand falls. Also, the z4 shifter is noticeably shorter on the top side, which I think looks a lot better. I had a little trouble getting the leather shift boot to fit properly because of a lack of space between the thick part of the shifter and the bottom of the knob.
Do it, I doubt that you will be unhappy with it.
Ian in Portland |
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djazz
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Foat Wuth, Texas
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Posted: Aug 27, 2008 3:31 AM Post subject: |
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I had it in my 85 and I'd agree with most of what is said here.
But now for a warning:
Because it is so short topside, shifting is hard and notchy, so it is rough on all the bushings underneath. I even thought of getting a weighted knob to help out because I did enjoy the very short throw, but then bought the 86.
Enjoy,
dj |
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disco stu
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Location: Bham, Alabama
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Posted: Aug 27, 2008 3:47 AM Post subject: |
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| im in for one. ill let you all know in a week or so how i like it. |
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disco stu
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Location: Bham, Alabama
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 12:39 PM Post subject: |
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so i still havnt received my shifter and ive called and emailed them numerous times!!!!  |
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fastpat
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Travelers Rest, South Carolina
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 4:24 PM Post subject: |
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From whom did you order it?
As an aside, I installed an e36 M3 shift lever and new associated bushings in my e30 Cabrio, a very nice upgrade.
The use of X5 levers looks interesting, I may have to try one.
Are the Z4 shift levers factory bent or straight? |
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disco stu
Joined: 27 Mar 2007 Location: Bham, Alabama
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 4:30 PM Post subject: |
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KO's websight.
got an invoice with no tracking and its been about a month |
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Mike W.
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Sonoma County, Ca.
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Posted: Sep 09, 2008 9:02 PM Post subject: |
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One further comment, I don't have the pic to show it, but the stock shifter is about a 10:1 ratio, so even the Z3 1.9 would be a huge change. Of course new bushings might be a big change too.  |
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fastpat
Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Location: Travelers Rest, South Carolina
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Posted: Sep 10, 2008 10:21 AM Post subject: |
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I see three shift levers listed for 1st Gen X5 3.0's.
These two for up to 09/2003
25111434624
25117543190
And this one for 09/2003 to 03/2005.
25117540036
Anyone know the differences? |
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